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December 12, 2025By Paula Pant

#668: Why Taking a Year Off Might Be Your Smartest Money Move, with David Bach

David Bach talks about his mini retirement with Paula PantWeโ€™re joined in-studio by David Bach, bestselling author of The Automatic Millionaire and The Latte Factor. Heโ€™s updated his most popular book (over two million copies sold) and this is his last big launch as he heads into retirement.

Together, we wrestle with a problem our listeners know well: what happens when youโ€™ve built the habit of saving, investing, optimizing โ€ฆ and then feel weirdly unable to spend.

We talk about mini-retirements, the psychology of โ€œspend and enjoy,โ€ and why waiting to touch retirement money can be its own kind of risk.

Key Takeaways

  • Think about retirement as a series of deliberate mini-retirements, not one finish line you might reach with less energy than you expected.
  • If youโ€™re a dedicated saver, build a plan for the โ€œspend and enjoyโ€ phase so you do not accidentally optimize away the years you wanted freedom for.
  • Run the numbers on โ€œsmallโ€ spending habits, not to guilt yourself, but to see which choices actually buy future optionality.
  • Treat withdrawals, benefits, and deadlines as part of the strategy, not a paperwork problem youโ€™ll deal with later.
  • If your finances feel out of reach, anchor yourself with a simple projection and one automated action, momentum beats motivation.

Resources and Links

  • David Bachโ€™s website
  • David Bachโ€™s books
    • The Automatic Millionaire (updated edition)
    • The Latte Factor
    • Smart Women Finish Rich
  • Afford Anything podcast episode #192

Chapters

Note: Timestamps are approximate and may vary greatly across listening platforms due to dynamically inserted ads.

(0:00) Intro
(4:50) Radical sabbaticals, Florence and rethinking retirement
(9:10) Health scares, widowhood stats and enjoying life earlier
(11:00) Updating The Automatic Millionaire for 24 million millionaires
(15:30) Social Security strategy, RMD parties and claiming earlier
(31:30) The latte factor, avocado toast and $10 dollar decisions
(33:00) How $10 a day turns into $678,000
(34:20) Oprah behind the scenes, bricks of cash and an audience gasp
(47:10) Tiffany Aliche, $75,000 dollars of debt and other success stories
(54:25) A $53,000 income couple who retired as multimillionaires
(1:25:40) Careers in advising, hiring trends and women advisors
(1:28:37) Social Security taxes, new ideas and an eight year tax window
(1:41:27) Remembering the โ€œwhy,โ€ values based choices and using money well

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