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#763: Acorns CEO: The Scariest Part Of Investing Is the First Step, with Noah Kerner

Noah Kerner was a bank teller at 17 and interned on a municipal bond trading floor in college. By every measure, he understood money. But his fear of investing kept him from buying so much as a certificate of deposit for most of his twenties, and it cost him a decade of compounding.

Today he’s the CEO of Acorns, which has helped everyday people save and invest more than $35 billion, often starting with spare change. He knows firsthand that the fear of investing rarely comes from a lack of knowledge. It comes from stress, shame, and the sense that money is a club you were never invited into.

Noah joins the show to talk about why so many people avoid looking at their money, and why most parents would rather talk to their kids about sex and drugs than about finances. He explains how Acorns tackles the fear of investing by making the first step so small that it’s hard to say no.

He also draws a sharp line between patience and prediction. He explains why prediction markets, sports betting, and buy now, pay later keep pulling people toward quick hits, and why the best thing to do with your money is often to be boring.

Then the conversation turns personal: the vestibular migraines that forced him to step away from work, how he lives with the risk that most companies fail, and the trait he values most in the people he hires.

Key Takeaways

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  • Knowing about money doesn’t make investing easier: Noah worked as a bank teller and interned on a bond trading floor, yet his fear of investing still kept him on the sidelines for a decade. Avoidance is usually emotional, driven by stress and shame, not a knowledge gap.
  • Make the first step too small to refuse: Rounding a $12.87 purchase up to $13 and investing the 13 cents is hard to object to. Starting tiny gets people past the fear of investing, and watching the balance grow builds the confidence to add recurring contributions.
  • Automation beats willpower for long-term investing: Recurring investments, such as $5 a day or $25 a week, are the most popular feature at Acorns. Automating the habit means it runs in the background for decades, without relying on daily discipline or decision-making.
  • Choose patience over prediction with your money: Prediction is thinking you can guess your way to rich quickly. Patience means a diversified portfolio and a 40-year horizon. Noah says it’s fine to play with about 10% of your money, but problems start when people confuse betting with a money strategy.
  • The app you use shapes how you behave: The same $10,000 can be handled very differently depending on the platform. Products built around trading reward impulsivity, while Acorns saw low withdrawals and steady investing even during market shocks like Liberation Day in April 2025.
  • A company’s business model reveals its real incentives: Acorns charges a subscription instead of profiting from trading, borrowing, or overspending. Noah argues that how a company makes money determines what it rewards, so it’s worth asking how any financial app earns its revenue before trusting it with yours.

Resources

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Acorns
Noah’s advice is to start small. Open an Acorns account, invest at least $5, and get a $5 bonus investment:
affordanything.com/acorns

Are You a Money Avoider?
Avoiding money cost Noah a decade of investing. Find out if you’re an avoider here:
affordanything.com/fiire

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02:02 Why over half of young people avoid their money
02:39 How fear cost him a decade of investing
04:44 Why money feels more taboo than sex
11:12 Why saving 13 cents beats saving nothing
13:54 Why people feel broke during a long bull market
17:48 Same $10,000, different app, different behavior
22:54 Why the best investing is boring
28:49 Patience vs. prediction: how wealth really grows
48:48 When his body forced him to stop working
56:20 Living with the odds that most businesses fail

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